For your delectation,
below is my correspondence
with the insane philosopher who is the only
mortal who actually knows the
truth. The whereabouts
of the MadPole is a complete mystery. Rumour
has it that it he was last sighted in a cave
in Berkshire, England.
Typical MadPole
quote:
"Funny thing is, my
spiritual experience is splitting into even
smaller chunks of time now. I went downstairs
to get a beer and had to crawl back upstairs
on my knees."
Welcome,
dear traveller, to The
MadPole
dialogues!
eadon:
I am sceptical but very open minded. I might
believe in anything if enough evidence accumulates.
MadPole:
There is famous English saying: "scepticism
killed the cat - next time it could be Youuuuuuuu
!"
eadon:
Opposite of sceptic: someone who believes without
questioning. Someone who does not control what
they think and believe. Some one who is out
of control. I never believe non-sceptics because
I never trust people who do not exercise critical
facilities. It is easy to believe comforting
beliefs but harder to not believe them because
there is no evidence, or contradiction.
MadPole:
Good Good Good ! That's me baby! I believe in...
believing! It is not my intention to convince
You! (Ha! ha! ha! - If You believe that You
will believe anything!) You have asked me a
question and I answered the best I could! Everybody
has got a right to believe what they want to
believe! Even if it is non-believing! It is
funny how we people always fight for beliefs...we
don't feel comfortable unless we know that our
fellow man believes in what we believe! Wars
were fought over beliefs. Millions and millions
people died because of "wrong" beliefs. I can
never get over the fact that religions, which
shout loudly "love your fellow man", feel happy
to slaughter the same man just because he does
not believe in what they believe. Despite the
fact that this man happens to love his fellow
men. Wrong god and You are dead! Wrong ritual
and you are dead! Pratchett is good at all this
stuff. Excellent in fact! Genius as far as I
am concerned!
At last I have found a good barber! I am looking
RESPECTABLE - can You believe it?
eadon:
No. I am a sceptic.
MadPole:
Bloody ego. Bloody gets in a way all the bloody
time! I am going to strangle the b*stard one
day!
eadon:
What? Ego? Did some shit hit a fan somewhere?
MadPole:
Got stupidly drunk yesterday - I fell of a chair
in somebody's house - very embarrassing - then
I could not find Kings X station - spent 2.5
hours wandering around London not knowing where
I am... and today I found some shoe polish and
brushes in my bag.... don't even know who they
belong except it belongs to the girl I don't
even know and whom I visited yesterday to help
her with her computer. And I fell from the chair
while being there landing in some piles of her
stuff... Oh dear dear me ! Spot of moral hangover
I've got - particularly that I found a plastic
bag with shoe polishing equipment in my bag
today - I don't know how it got in there Feel
totally weak - can't even stand up - will have
a lie in today !
Credit card - just reaching the limit ! I am
basically financially f**ked for at least half
a year - even if I find the job NOW - the only
good thing is that I CAN NOT afford a low pay
! So I have to stand up for myself and demand
money! Hurray ! Would my high moral standards
allow me to work on defence projects ? I think
so!
eadon:
I would definitely get rid of stating your "security
clearance" from your CV. It is like a vampire
saying on his CV that he doesn't suck blood.
It will have the opposite effect as you surmise.
MadPole:
At the end of the day it is "defence", innit
? Lovely word ! Every country spends money on
"defence" - never on "aggression"! Obviously
Americans go one step further and actually defend
their country ... anywhere in the world. How
patriotic of them!
MadPole:
You sound a bit "under the weather" - which
was quite bad recently ......
eadon:
Will be happier once the spring kicks in.
MadPole:
I had this feeling this morning - life is very
determined to teach me one lesson - to be relaxed
about things and stop trying to "perform" all
the time! Every time I am prepared and I think
I do very well it turns out bad. And every time
I am late or it is total disaster it turns out
to be good! It happened MILLIONS of times and
me bloody stubborn donkey still haven't accepted
this simple fact! But I am getting there. It
is all about fight for energy....some people/situations
suck energy out of us and then we get angry,
frustrated and stressed out without even knowing
that the reason for it is simple fear and insecurity
based on this very imbalance of energy....we
feel threatened....our brain, our mind, our
consciousness might very well think it is in
total control but in fact subconscious mind
knows better - it is all about energy.
We know subconsciously very well that when we
have a lot of energy "things happen"... we know
subconsciously about the law of "cause and effect",
out subconscious was around enough to spot certain
patterns, certain related facts, certain occurrences
and cycles. We all have occasional "glimpses"
on this hidden word of subconsciousness where
words don't have a place: we all have weird
dreams, weird things happen to us, we all have
some vague memories of something different,
something not quite definable, something on
the border between dream and reality....Our
logical mind rejects all this....mind can not
accept a world without words, thoughts without
concepts, seeing cause and effect without seeing
logic....That's how mind works for million of
various reasons so stuff it.
The truth lies below the mind, in subconscious.
Subconscious is if fact a "network adapter"
which connects us to the Universe. It is there
where the real communication and real observation
takes place. It is good to get to know one's
subconscious - starting preferably from one's
own one! Anyway - energy concept - because it
is just a concept - not "true" or "false" -
just one of many different ways of trying to
describe something which lies outside words
- this energy concept then is beautiful because
it is so simple and nice and practical! When
I get angry or stressed out or depressed I know
it is because something or somebody is draining
me out of energy. I know it is because I feel
threatened. So instead of following my anger
or whatever which would obviously drain me out
of energy even more - I know the only thing
I have to do to remedy situation is to "find
and close the leak". If I am angry with somebody
I am trying hard to find out why I am angry
with them. I might not agree with what they
say or do but I should not get angry. Angry
is the alarm bell going off. Angry means that
the object of my anger is irrelevant here. Angry
means problem is somewhere inside me - there
is some "energy leak" somewhere! So I try to
understand how this person or situation created
such leak. And in most cases I discover that
the whole anger was just my insecurity and childishness
- that it had nothing to do with the person
concerned.
Bloody hell - got a bit carried away here didn't
I? So anyway - to sum it up nicely: "If I am
angry - I am angry with myself." Any feeling
of anger, frustration etc. towards somebody
or something is just internal insecurity trying
desperately to find an object it could manifest
itself on. This is our "Real Me" crying inside
us, shouting and trying to show us that it is
frustrated. The problem is that we don't know
anymore how to communicate with.....ourselves
- so we have to use other people in order to
exchange communications between our consciousness
and subconsciousness.
But I guess those kind of patterns happen in
other areas of life as well - business for example.
Every big business has got its consciousness
- the "clever bit", organisation, corporate
image, rules and procedures, dreams and pride,
fear and insecurity and subconsciousness - the
operators at the bottom who don't give a shit
about organisation, who don't know and don't
want to know all this corporate crap but who
do know that the procedures were written by
people without clue and they just disturb the
efficient operations....But conscious corporate
mind does not really want to know about this
"REAL reality", it likes to base its existence
on concepts and so on and so on..... bloody
hell !!!
MadPole:
I am back! If you want to give me a tinkle you
will have to perform a voice recognition procedure
- ie talk to my answer machine so I can recognise
it is You and pick up the phone - very sophisticated
system indeed ! I am not answering phone calls
because I am being bullshitted and bullied beyond
any belief [by employment agencies]. It feels
like "Top 200 hard sale double glazing salesmen
competition", me being a poor Mr Bloggs who
was chosen to test their abilities. They try
anything - tempt me with offers of paradise,
emotional blackmail, psychological tricks and
so on and so on.....
eadon:
You have no sympathy from me. If you will open
the Pandora's box of 1000 agencies... This morning
(Tues) I had to break into my own house. 1)
Shut front door 2) didn't have car keys 3) tried
to open front door 4)failed because had pocketed
the back door key instead of the front door
key. 5) scrambled over 8 foot back gate 6) got
in house and disabled alarm 7)noticed that my
trousers were utterly ruined with brown creosote
stains 8) changed trousers 9) went to work 10)
I am wearing shirt and tie during casual clothes
week. Forgot. 11) Doh! 12) Not as bad as hapless
guy at work who turned up at 9pm last night
(I was working late) and couldn't find his passport
and going to Tenerife today with wife. Yours
believing that life is too bizarre to take it
seriously in the slightest ever. Except when
the toothache strikes.
MadPole:
Life is beautiful....And it is all back to observing
the experiment! After yesterday I realised that
that's what yoga and Buddhism is all about -
to learn to be an observer rather than the object!
As an observer one is still an object of observation
because the observation changes according how
one observes....But being OUTSIDE the experiment
means that one is not involved in it and has
got more control over it etc.. etc..
MadPole:
"Our existence is the only proof of our non-existence.
Interestingly enough our non-existence is at
the same time a perfect proof of our existence."
What do you see? The statement above is fully
developed, materially existent baby of our thoughts!
Your thoughts make my brain create new thoughts
and I am feeding that to you which makes you
create new thoughts which makes me create more
new thoughts. This is a vicious circle apart
from the fact that it isn't! It is simply an
evolutionary process and as with every evolutionary
process it is a spiral - things keep repeating
themselves but there is always something new,
some new dimension coming out of each cycle.
Everything is the same but always different,
always new, always more advanced than previous
cycle. And anyway - that's totally different
cup of tea all together. I had it all beautifully
laid out yesterday but now I am rushing and
that's not the subject to rush. And anyway -
the motto of the story is simple. The thoughts
at the beginning is a result of evolution. It
is combination of yours and my thoughts and
everything else which happened to us during
our lives. It is material (although in electronic
format) - it does exist and you are looking
at it. This thought in fact is not just a consolidation
of our thoughts - because I have wrote it on
the computer whole humanity threw their bit
in as well - people who created computers, language
and so on and on.... Evolution always works
as a whole! Anyaway - the motto of the story
REALLY is simple: We have witnessed a revolutionary
process, a creation of new material entity.
And we were involved in creating it. We are
observers! And at the same time participants
in the experiment. Enough! More later - I am
not checking my E-mail or answering the phone
because at the moment I spend more time in a
car than in bed sleeping and if I don't disturb
this balance I will simply kill myself - I have
seen a nicely squashed car today on M3 - it
does make impression when one sees this kind
of thing while ambulance, police and fire brigade
are still there....
eadon:
Your senses may be deceiving you. But the fact
you are thinking about that means you exist
even if nothing else does. This is Descartes
and his Cognito, "I think therefore I am" Also
what caused your thoughts. If there was cause
and effect going on, were your thoughts produced
through free will or by mechanical effects which
are beyond your control. Also, evolution is
not necessarily progressive. It has no direction.
An organism can get simpler. Parasites are good
examples. Only statistical chance leads to greater
complexity at one end of the complexity spectrum
where as the minimum complexity is defined by
the smallest structure required for life. On
the contrary technological evolution is driven
to higher complexity by market forces making
faster chips and larger, more powerful software
programs.
The Technological evolutionary equivalent of
the parasite is Microsoft. They feed off other
peoples ideas and then weaken them so they don't
have to kill them completely, which would be
counterproductive. (Note what MS did to Netscape
and is trying to do with Linux and Java) I would
not have made this last insight so cogently
had it not been for you of course. You are part
of the parasite detection evolutionary web,
did you know that?
MadPole:
Parasite detection evolutionary Web - yes -
we need to talk more about that! I love it!
As far as my thoughts go - they are produced
by mechanical means, but it does not necessarily
mean that I don't have control over them. I
don't have a control over the mechanics but
the more I understand them, I have limited control
over the end result. Same as a programmer -
he does can not control electrons but knowing
the programming language does help to control
the end result...well.....at least it gives
one impression that one is in control and achieving
something.
Evolution is ALWAYS progressive although I do
agree that things can get simpler etc....Evolution
is really a vector or whatever it is called
of time. It can never be negative.....it can
never go backward.
MadPole:
What is the difference between me and a dog
? What is the difference between me and a tree
? What is the difference between me and You
? The REAL OBJECTIVE difference I am talking
about! And the answer is: none ! We are all
the same - the common factor being the fact
that we are all different ! We are all unique.
And that's all. Everything else is just artificial
categories and boundaries introduced by humans
for this or other reason. Me and You - we are
both humans. Me and dog - we are both mammals
Me and tree - we are both living creatures Me
and You - our names are different Me and dog
- our sleeping patterns differ Me and tree -
our life styles are different And so on and
so on...... We won't let those xxxxxxx exploit
us - will we ? But that thread on another channel
!
What is interesting is the fact that I have
been forced by evolution itself to practically
implement observer-participant of the experiment
theories. Which gives me a great opportunity
to see how simple it is. As a participant I
am in totally shit situation with practically
no way out. As an observer I can get pissed
off, frustrated etc. etc.. (which of course
I am at the moment - mainly because I am absolutely
knackered). So what can I do ? I can't change
experiment - ie situation I am in. The only
thing I can do is to change how I am observing
this wonderful experiment I am in - ie in order
to save myself I don't have a choice but to
change my perception of the experiment and concentrate
on the areas which would be beneficial to me.
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