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MadPole: "I'm not mad!?"

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MadPole On Madness


For your delectation, below part seven of my correspondence with the insane philosopher MadPole, who is the only mortal who actually knows the truth.


Typical MadPole quote:


"Zero is an evil invention of left-wing lesbian feminists."



MadPole: My problem is nobody appreciates my smutty puns and being frivolous with English language - people tend to correct me instead which is a bit upsetting! But when I am making genuine mistakes obviously very few people actually correct me - usual "out of sync" duality and so on...



MadPole: Welcome to the world of Marketing and virtual reality! Just occurred to me: people (including myself) get excited about FreeServe etc.. But at the same time - nobody really understands money, not to mention Stock Exchange! We are deeply, deeeply stuck already in virtual reality and everytime we discover it we can not quite believe it!

eadon: Someone said that the Internet doesn't mix with reality. When you try to mix them insane things happen. This is what is happening with Internet stock going through the roof. Most of the buyers are private hobbyists who find web companies more interesting than, say, a supermarket chain. Ironic that everybody is making money out of stock exchange on the basis of nothing.



MadPole: Mad is good! Being mad, and particularly being mad and being able to control one's madness is possibly the best and the MOST ... you know the rest! Need to rush to the Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

eadon: Quite, except the mad perhaps do not control their madness. Only the sane to that, because we are all mad. The only thing that varies is the control.

MadPole: Exactly my words! But if You turn them around.....

eadon: Methinks the way we control our madness is madder than the madness it "hides"

MadPole: True but false! Imagine being SO SO mad that You don't really know what's going on but leave in total ecstasy, everything is absolutely hilariously funny etc. etc..... I have met people who live like that - totally separated from the "real" world and therefore treating it as just another game, another LEGO blocks one gets for Xmas..... Anyway, here is my new philosophy: Life is one big trip. And then there is another one!

eadon: And yet if the seratonin levels in the brain drop then one is depressed, trip or no trip. Game over. But depression can be good. Great art would not exist without it. In fact the combination of depression, madness and talent produces the best art. But probably the worst office workers. Bring back alcohol and madness into the office and see creativity in business flourish. Actually there is total madness in all offices but it is of the worst possible sort. Are you sure there is another trip after life? I wish I was convinced!

MadPole: How about simplifying ALL RELIGIONS ?! Is there a trip after life ? Ha! Here is the unified answer to what all religions preach! Yes there is - if You believe in it! The Power Of Perception! Who are You ?! Apart from your brain and body? You are a figment of perception, the bits of energy combined together. When someone dies - their bodies "die" - but not the energy! Energy can not be destroyed - only transformed! Even if You are your body only - this body will decompost, merge with other substances, create other energies and entities. Depressing as it sounds - there is no escape - nobody CAN die! And religion "If You believe in God You will go to heaven" means: Believing is simply training your "energies" so they know what to do when the brain is dead. No - no good day today. But yes - conclusion is very religious one: If you believe there is nothing after death - than there won't be! This is called "hell". If you believe there is something after death than your wholeness will not be lost. This is called "heaven". The word "Trip" I used is much more universal than that and by its definition includes depression and pain and madness and everything else. Exactly - this is just a trip - just being in some weird Fun Fair! And hey presto - if one does not know that it is only Fun Fair one gets frightened and can't see a way out.

Think about it! All the pain, frustration, time spent worrying, being upset etc.... And then 2 words: "Fun Fair". And suddenly one laughs! What a fool one has been ?! What a wonderful fool?! And suddenly one feels infinitive gratefulness to those news, those 2 magic words! Paradise has started! And it took 2 words to create it! And one goes and speaks to others: "My human fellows - this is only fun fair!" But they are scared of him They are scared, because if what he is saying is true - then they wasted all their lives on worrying etc... Their lives, goals, ambitions become invalid! Fools - the only problem they have is that they don't know how to laugh! They are offered a liberation but they are scared. The Ego wins again. And the good man with a good news is nailed to the piece of a tree. They can't have him and live their lives. He is a proof that PARADISE is a easily obtainable commodity.

eadon: inspiring - at least until you have to do work. Washing up and work have no place in a fayre ground!



MadPole: You would not have information without energy - energy is what allows information to....form itself! Information without anything else could not exist! Oh come on! What is Information Technology ? A lot of organised electrons - energy! What is a Library - a lot of books - atoms - energy (not to mention energy put into writing them!) But hey - what was first - an egg or a hen ? I'll will not insist whether it is energy or information!

eadon: Life depends on info and if you destroy the info you irreversible destroy the life. Another whimsical insight - the total energy of the universe is zero, gravity cancels matter and radiation energy. And yet there is still life!

MadPole: By "energy" I mean "something"! Can anything exist without energy ?! Information is a method of organising "something" How can You talk about information WITHOUT ANYTHING! NO BLOOY WAY! Let's get it clear what is "energy" - because we are not arguing about what we think we are arguing! At the moment we are discussing the definition of "energy" and we have to pass this stage in order to continue! So stuff energy! "stuff" actually is quite nice word - I mean something - atoms, electrons, protons, nucleus whatever! Light - it is all a "stuff", something. Information is only a method of organisation - information cannot exist if there is nothing to organise and nobody to witness it!

eadon: Yes, kind Sir, that is all very well, but information can be created and destroyed, ironically by energy! I surmise that life is a side effect of information. If you ruin the information you ruin the life. And entropy will see to it that it is permanent. It is very simple. Death destroys information which is the relationship between the atoms. If you separate the atoms then its game over! Its like levels! Life exists at the level of information, which is a higher level than energy. Separate the atoms of the brain and the mind ceases to exist, because the mind is a side effect of the incredibly complex relative positions of those atoms. The only way out is to surmise the existence of a soul. But that is believing in magic. When you say energy, are you referring to a soul?

MadPole: Precisely! Precisely! So we are talking about ABSOLUTELY the same thing after all! Separate the atoms and the mind will cease to exist! ABSOLUTELY! I prefer the word "brain" Perhaps I will sneakingly wrap up the day by making this simple statement: Is your brain You ?! Only You can answer this question. If You think that your brain is You then there is nothing to discuss!



MadPole: I was talking about "energy" not as energy but as a lowest level, smallest denominator! It is "true" - isn't it ?! Matter is made of energy, isn't it ? And it does not matter anyway!

eadon: Very true! A neural computer will behave similarly whether it is made of silicon powered by the national grid, biological brain cells powered by chemistry or software. It behaves the same independently of what it is made of. Therefore I agree with you that energy and matter are a prerequisite, but they are of no importance, behaviour wise. One type of matter/energy can be substituted for another. Only structure is important.



MadPole: Funny - women accuse man of being materialistic, logical, and without emotions but it is women who are practical, logical and don't give a damn about Universe!



[Does zero exist?]

eadon: Zero exists all right! It is the solution of many equations. For example zero is the solution to Fermat's last theorem, ie there are exactly zero solutions for n > 2 In the real world it can denote the absence of things, eg. if you have zero cash then you is broke. Zero does exist as an object mathematically but in reality it denotes absence. Question for you - an infinitesimal is a number smaller than any number you can imagine yet larger than zero. Does that exist?

MadPole: The only purpose of maths is to capture, encapsulate and describe in words certain patterns repeatedly occurring in so called "life" or "Universe" or "reality". Maths is no different from religion, dance or game of chess. They all use the same methodology to describe the world around us: by identifying patterns, rhythms and structures, causes and effects, building blocks, base classes. And then expressing those patterns, structures interacting in multi-dimensional space, by inventing unique abstract system which would allow to express interaction as well as evolution, time as well as many dimensions, building blocks and microscopic elements, parents and children, cause and effect.

In fact anything I think of uses more or less the same PATTERN! This is a MASTER PATTERN! Pattern which other pattern use to develop their own patterns. Music, literature, all arts - they are all small mini-systems trying to mirror certain aspect, certain flow of life. In fact work, for me anyway, is the same. Work is not about going there or earning money. It is about being there, being involved in a bigger machine, bigger entity. Entity which is out of control and although all its parts know it, they can't do anything about it...evolution if action and I am witnessing the next level of consciousness - from individual to collective! Because any company has its own personality, identity, it is entity on its own, totally separate from people who form it. The whole is always bigger than its parts.

And zero ? Well. The whole purpose of maths is to mirror certain aspects of life. Zero is simply a symbol for nothing. And therefore is as awkward. Maths have to justify zero just as we have to justify usage of nothing. But we don't really understand the concept of zero because we don't really understand the concept of nothing ("I have nothing to say!" - that does not make sense - if there is nothing to say why say it?). "Nothing" is an abstract concept. It was not invented to be understood. It was invented to be used in language. A human, grown up on a desert island would probably invent his/hers own small vocabulary. But I can't see how this human would arrive at the word "nothing". It seems impossible. It's not human nature. It sounds mad and crazy. Human brain likes facts, experiences, images. It likes the things it thinks ARE, not the things it thinks ARE NOT. Man, left on his own, would not think about nothing. He would think about something, most likely sex. The Universal Rule Of Opposites forced therefore poor woman to invent "nothing" - the abstract term invented purely for purposes of gaining some power and influence over her food provider. "Nothing eat. Nothing w*nk-w*nk." was apparently the very first usage of this word. So there you go. Zero is an evil invention of left-wing lesbian feminists. And they turned up on this planet long time before maths were invented. Resist nothing and have something in return! Maths, like everything else, attempts to take a slice through life, keeping only - oh b*llox I am going to bed!




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